Uh... is our Ryzen 5000 Review WRONG?? - WAN Show November 6 , 2020

Datum objavljivanja: 6. Stu 2020.
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00:01:25 - Intro
00:02:19 - Topic #1: AMD is, once again, on the top [And benchmark difference]
00:23:52 - Topic #2: Apple's A14X laptop benchmarks LEAKED
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00:32:58 - Topic #3: Uber and Lyft do not classify drivers as employees
00:44:55 - Topic #4: Debt collectors
00:49:50 - Topic #5: Your router is probably vulnerable
00:52:07 - Topic #6: Friendly reminder to do offline backup
00:53:23 - Wrapping up
00:54:36 - Woops, almost forgot the superchats!

Komentari

  • I'm just upgrading from an i5 2400 to a R5 3600. I love tech but I just never had the money to get a new CPU and mobo combo, I did however have to upgrade (due to GPU death) my 560 to a 1060 and even then it was only the 3Gb version. A lot of people have only ever played games on lower and medium graphics settings and just never thought they *needed* to upgrade in 2-3 years. I mostly play WOW which is a CPU bound game I think and even with my i5 2400 I'm rocking medium to good graphics settings at 1080p. Linus is right that I wont be going to adjust the memory timings, I'm just ecstatic that I finally have more than 8Gb of ddr3 ram and a modern CPU. It's a "budget" build but I bet I'll be blown away at the difference between it and my current 8 year old PC when I finally get all the parts to build it.

  • Hey guys a lot of you maybe already heard the story of KoolKing Logan. He is an awsome kid who just beat cancer and his dream is to become a youtuber. He really makes quality content yesterday alone he got 50k new subscriber as the internet is banding together to help him out. The only thing he needs is a proper setup. Maybe LTT could help out there and hook him up with proper equipment. It would be nice if this post could get some traction so the right people read this. Here is a link to his channel: hrwiki.info/key/JeoZ5ubCT1FMi9ad63-M-w

  • Linus has huh-duh six-hundge-oes by Senn

  • I worked for some good companies and some really bad ones. In the worst one, employees tried to form the union, but when the owner heard about that he said he'll rather close the entire branch(fire around 200 people) to scare the other branches then allow it. In the company where i work now a have a great boss, great pay. No one ever talks about forming union, because we just don't need it.

  • The way you mitigate the power of teacher unions in the case of a bad teachers' is a strong students' union. Weaker unions is not what you want.

  • nudge nudge wink wink

  • Unions are criminal extortion mob. It has no place in a normal soceity.

  • So if Uber drivers are employees, they then need to put in 40 hours, and comply with regular full time expectations. The gig economy was always supposed to be a flexible part time, take it as far as you want type of job. How is this hard to understand.

  • probably the ram was the difference

  • In a perfect world your solution for the Uber employees rights would be correct. But the whole "Just make a competitor to that company" has happened already with Twitter and patreon because people disagree with their politics and guess what, shit didn't work out because the larger companies shut them out of the market.

  • I would say most enthusiasts care about the nitty gritty right after they are done saving up for a new build. You crunch for months to make sure you are spending exactly the right amount of money on when they are getting. Then you rest for 4 years until you are ready to get back up to speed?

  • 36:00 People tend not to work for Uber/Lyft/Doordash/Postmates as a main job. They tend to work for them as a side-job. Classifying them as employees would make the overhead more expensive, and those services would wind down or cease operations in CA.

  • Not gonna lie I kinda want to see Like rocking a Fu Manchu

  • While the Ryzen 5600x performs better than the 3700x in gaming, the 3700x performs slightly better than 5600x in productivity applications at the same price point with 2 extra cores which makes the 3700x more useful and gives better performance if you are running visualization, running productivity applications, or video editing with Davinci Resolve.

  • IF one uses Firefox with NOSCRIPT extension... The ONLY script would run in the browser is that which is white listed or allowed to run by the user as NOSCRIPT blocks all java scripts from running, and if the router and/or PC is configured to run a Secure DNS server rather than the default ISP's DNS server the user will significantly minimize the risk of vulnerability ... And turn the PC off when not in use and use an extension like DISCONNECT to block ads.....Router Vulnerabilities have been known for years ...

  • As a full time gig worker I'd like to say that in no way would I be doing this work if I was an employee. Since when are employees able to dictate their work hours and what work they actually do? I'm able to work as long as I want and also go home when I want. I make in average 25$ per hour, if they classify me as an employee ID be making 12$ an hour and won't be able to choose my hours or say no to jobs I don't want to do. Those of us actually doing these jobs don't want to be employees. Linus seems very tone deaf on this subject.

  • 12 cores is nice i must admit.. ripping videos is very quick

  • LTT D2!!!!!

  • Well I'm one of the examples that do every benchmark with and for their rig available simply because I love to see those get shredded by my 1080ti

  • BEST PART was when they were talking about teachers

  • Wink, wink, nudge, nudge...

  • Do you recommend I upgrade the Bios on my B450 for the new zen 3 processors

  • I don't know what it's like In Canada but in Germany debt collection via call, text or email is not legally binding. if you think about it, anyone can register any mail address or social media account.

    • but they can take everything you own that you don't need for work or living. TV? yes. 50 pairs of vintage sneakers? yes. oven or computer? no

  • I'm sorry Linus but Elon Musk is not an engineer. He studied economics and physics.

  • 17:30 I bought a 3900X and I have buyer's remorse. Now I want a 5900X.

  • Hey linus for ur fans or just help will u replay or make a vid/ content of why a 120hz cmi vs 120hz tv the difference between them i got a 50 in tlc uhd 4k at 120hz cmi for 250 and really want to know if its powerfull enuf to run it to it full potential will u make a vid comparing 120hz vs 120hz cmi so u can

  • Uber left a few cities completely when they tried to make rules about drivers needing background checks to drive to the airport. They would *totally* leave before they hired every driver as full time employees

  • RE: Sweating, Stinking, Wet Feet. Fixing All the Above! www.cvs.com/drug/drysol vessi.com/collections/men Hi! I'm a Retired & Disabled Medical Doctor (and this is NOT MEDICAL ADVICE but your viewers anecdotal advicel) have smelled many hundreds of wet feet. Foot sweating is not good. Unless you go barefoot, RUN BAREFOOT and play sports Barefoot. Either web site is great or both together. I never found a patient who preferred wet, stinky and stained with sweat, shoe's. If people check with a health care provider they probably won't ever buy your planned product, I'm very sorry. PS: The "no sweat" disease is "Sjogren's syndrome" (which I have & rheumatoid arthritis, they usually go together). I subscribe to and love your LTT'isms on HRwiki.

  • I'm still rocking an i7 2600k 🤟

  • You do not have a nexus therefore should not be applicable to county specific tax.

    • I am not a CPA. Just a thing I picked up from an account. Milage may vary.

  • Gotta love people in the chat defending a billion dollar company.

  • NA employee rights... As a Norwegian, I dunno how people even live their lives not knowing if they'll be able to put food on the table next month, let alone have a table... And whenever it is discussed, anything that resembles better conditions for the employee is instantly stapled as communist or socialist. I wonder how much money the lobbyers have spent on demonizing unions over there, here I didn't even think twice about joining a union in college.

  • And in one quick statement... Linus's mum becomes a legend!

  • i upgrade every 2-3 years sell my old hw and buy new ones

  • Apple does not sell electronics, they sell things to feed the egos of their customers.

  • Silly libertarians...

  • Tue, 10 Nov, 18:57 (19 hours ago) to President Hi K, please take note of the below and goggle and read the below case. Dono ghue v stevenson 1932 Also attached a recording, I will be releasing the full recording of your staff member working from home to the public shortly as well, I hold my cards close to my chest so do not underestimate me. I play games for a living and will win and my life If needed I will take and a letter left will be including yourself. I do not go small and will go big. And It will be on the front page of the news as I have no care to strive for a better tomorrow. Negligence, Sue the Sam and the Sung, Negligence. We are not robots RL^ Negligence. Lies as have hard evidence of this I am very clever and all units not even ordered in my name only the one. But have the receipts and the transfer from my account to said accounts to make the purchases. Liars and it all ended and started in a factory in Hungary. Problem for you: not all parts in the product run ???? to ?????? as parts assembled within the supply chain to the end and final product fall outside of the EU. FALD Problem uniformity Problem, Unacceptable, All from the same Factory in Hungary. Negligence. Duty Of Care. Manufacturers have a legal duty of care to the ultimate consumers of their products if it is not possible for defects to be identified before the goods are received. Breach ??????????????????????? Complex I will have you, mark my words and I will die to win and I am being serious. You take Care. I dont give a shit and look forward to the end infinity and beyond Listen to the the attached I will also release recordings being told by multiple staff, but not just me and my affiliates yet to be revealed. 12 note 1 multiple take note 27 separate recordings by 7 of my partners in crime across the UK just like the note and others that went boom in the past of Samsung remember your notes of the past. I am mentally insane so capable of the uncapeable trust, you have made a serious mistake I look forward to your reply The card game is ended and the chess game has begun xxxxxx · Reply · 1m

  • Tue, 10 Nov, 18:57 (19 hours ago) to President Hi K, please take note of the below and goggle and read the below case. Dono ghue v stevenson 1932 Also attached a recording, I will be releasing the full recording of your staff member working from home to the public shortly as well, I hold my cards close to my chest so do not underestimate me. I play games for a living and will win and my life If needed I will take and a letter left will be including yourself. I do not go small and will go big. And It will be on the front page of the news as I have no care to strive for a better tomorrow. Negligence, Sue the Sam and the Sung, Negligence. We are not robots RL^ Negligence. Lies as have hard evidence of this I am very clever and all units not even ordered in my name only the one. But have the receipts and the transfer from my account to said accounts to make the purchases. Liars and it all ended and started in a factory in Hungary. Problem for you: not all parts in the product run ???? to ?????? as parts assembled within the supply chain to the end and final product fall outside of the EU. FALD Problem uniformity Problem, Unacceptable, All from the same Factory in Hungary. Negligence. Duty Of Care. Manufacturers have a legal duty of care to the ultimate consumers of their products if it is not possible for defects to be identified before the goods are received. Breach ??????????????????????? Complex I will have you, mark my words and I will die to win and I am being serious. You take Care. I dont give a shit and look forward to the end infinity and beyond Listen to the the attached I will also release recordings being told by multiple staff, but not just me and my affiliates yet to be revealed. 12 note 1 multiple take note 27 separate recordings by 7 of my partners in crime across the UK just like the note and others that went boom in the past of Samsung remember your notes of the past. I am mentally insane so capable of the uncapeable trust, you have made a serious mistake I look forward to your reply The card game is ended and the chess game has begun xxxxxx · Reply · 1m

  • Unions WON'T Fix the World, because they share the same defect as any other organization - Hierarchy (The Peter Principle). The way you fix it is by ELIMINITATING Seniority. Once "Vested" (120 days or whatever), everyone should be on equal standing with actual skills and training counting as reasonable advantage. The way unions function now, they just turn one boss into many (often not nearly as good at management, as the traditional direct supervisor boss).

  • 35:50 So in my state we have a flat-rate income tax, everyone is taxed the same %. Their was a measure on the ballot to allow the state to discriminate and increase the taxes of those making more than $250,000a year. The opponents of it put out ads and commercials convincing people that the new measure will allow the state government to increase middle-class income more. So More people voted to not have the Tax law. The thing is, the State could already increase/decrease taxes on everyone. So in 2021 everyone's income taxes are going up, rich, middle and poor. In Califonia the opponents were able to convince the voters that Prop 22 will give a competitive advantage to the big corporation that hurt workers and small family-owned taxi and delivery business

  • A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

  • 8 cores make more sense than 6 and 12 for streaming if its within your budget.

  • I voted NO on Proposition 22 since it was rather easy to do research and see who wanted it! And right wingers claim California is a "liberal hellhole?!" And these right wingers aren't rich people but WISH they could be in charge of companies like Uber and Lyft! At 43:27, John Campbell sounds like one of those right wingers!

  • Regarding unions. Company that I worked for few years ago provided IT support to other companies. My team was responsible for Windows servers and ESXi hosts that they were on. One day person from client side yeled at us, that few VMs went missing. We checked the logs and a woman that was a union rep deleted them. Person who yeled at us changed their tone and told us, that we wil have decomission request for those machines in a couple of hours. Few weeks later she asked one of my coworkers how to delete a VM so that it will not show up in logs, or how to delete the logs... When we asked our contact at that company, why she was not fired because that was not even the first time she did something like that, or at least why someone without any IT background still has admin access to core infrastructure, we were told that it is because she is head of the union at that place and even CEO was afraid of her...

  • Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink, haha love the reference. ;)

  • Damn, you guys getting into Politics! STFU and stay Tech

  • intel is dead! Apple and aAMD just made that a fact. Sad, they should've gotten their act long ago. Intel, never again tell your consumers how many cores they need! That's not your place, its the consumers place to tell you with their purchase power!

  • I bought the 1600 AF for $78 with a discount when I found out about them. 4 months later they are out of stock and are selling for $150+ used on eBay. I love this chip, but I don't think it's worth $150, thoughts??

  • 100% agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • x299 is 3 generations :P

  • They can take whatever they need to make up the amount owing

  • I live in California I’m a previous gig economy worker. Sometimes working for post-mates id only make $3.77 an hour. On our ballots the prop 22 was worded very carefully to make it seem like voting yes on it was a vote to classify gig economy workers as employees (because voting yes on something that isn’t already a law usually means yes pass the new law) instead voting yes on prop was actually voting against it. I nearly marked the wrong answer do to the tricky wording I’m wondering how many people marked yes thinking they were voting to protect gig workers. Not to mention the non stop ads featuring “gig economy workers” begging to be classified as contractors (complete BS).

  • I have nothing against paying your employees more or improving benefits, it's a great tactic for worker retention. The idea that Linus is gonna talk about regulations eliminating employment, raising operating costs and forcing consumer price hikes and calling it "free market" is a joke. It shows his world is the tech world, one of very little regulation, where he doesn't have to experience what the real effects are of all these regulations and not just the rosey goodness politicians preach to get reelected. Maybe Canada is drastically different, I can't say for sure, but tech is one of the few industries that typically has very little government regulation and barriers, partly what makes it great. He asked a viewer "is that what they told you" but doesn't that apply to Linus? Isn't he just reading an article with a slant without living in the area, working for the company, following closely what's gonna happen to your job? Pot calling the kettle black right there.

  • Linus doesn't understand that some people want flexibility with their employment. Linus literally has an independent contractor working for him that wants to stay like that. Is it really hard to understand that some people don't like the idea of losing "100 'bad' jobs for 50 'good' jobs"? Being told half of you will get fired because your job isn't respectful is not something to rile up the base well. Just realize some people want to be able to participate in the gig economy. Don't try to destroy gigs just because you don't like them, let people who want them keep them.

  • Californian here. they won by running a disinformation campaign. Basically convincing everyone their workers actually like it. There were targeted ads everywhere, every website, flyers being mailed, etc.

  • Lol the thumbnail

  • No one over estimates the size of their niche as much as you tubers

  • My last desktop had a Mobile processor: 2011 Mac Mini i7 2620m. Been using a Celeron N2840 Chromebook since 2016. Upgrading to an i3-8130U Chromebook on CyberMonday. Probably going to get a Mac Mini M1 for HRwiki content creation.

  • Can you do a TechQuickie simply listing CPU performance improvements over past 20 years? To determine if Intel has been lazy-greedy or if AMD has beat Intel's Best Efforts?

  • Where do you buy desktop components? Do you sell? I'd like to build an AMD desktop. BestBuy has none.

  • the Apple Ecosystem is just another PRC with Apple daddy being the CCP equivalent controlling everything and everyone in the high walls, and the controlled people all feel good for living inside the walls.

  • At Haswell times it was "You dont need HT for gaming" and now trying to play CS GO with I5 4690k is suffering with serious FPSd dips to sub 50's on some maps, and on other side I7 4790K would not drop under 100. I would go with as many cores as budget would permit if you are going to keep that setup for multiple years.

  • As a business owner and former Uber, Lyft, and Amazon driver, I voted on the side of the businesses. I signed up to contract for those companies under their terms. I don't believe companies should be told how to run their businesses. I was never forced to work for them under their terms that I agreed to.

  • then we found out that with ryzen 5600 that 4 sticks of ram will gain you 3-8% more fps than 2 sticks

  • Someone might have said this already so forgive me, if that is true here. "That's a difference of fifty bucks." According to the prices I've seen the 5800x is $449.00 USD, the 5900x is $549.00 USD. Not trying to push the issue, only offer the perspective that it is a difference of $100.00 USD. For me it would be a no brainier if it was only 50, but 100...that makes me think a little.

  • More politics pls. Dunk on those that deserve dunking

  • The issue you are missing about employee vs contract is when you are not an employee you can set your own hours.

  • for the zen3 stuff ... "i watched every review and it noticed a discrepency" type of man ... thats literally who i am. and even I dont tune my timings because most of the time i watch new exiting hardware stuff or game when i'm at my pc XD and on the 8 year cycle with mindblowing upgrades .. you are 100% correct .. i came from an i7-860 to a 9900k ... man was that braincell explodingly good of an upgrade

  • They do that because the company can just F leave that state if they dont get what they want.. even worst outsource

  • Wink Wink, Nudge Nude, Say No More!

  • My drafting teacher was in class about 30% of the time so we moded battlefield 2 to install in 2 mins and would install it on all the computer and play battlefield the whole class

  • There would be no Uber.... in California....

  • "Convincing the average voter that it's bad for people to have employee rights... how does this kind of stuff get voted for?" Buddy, have you ever been to America? lol. Hating low wage workers is as American as apple pie.

  • I like how you "End" the Wan show but then you continue it into a bit of an After show and allows you to Stuff in the useless stuff like super chats, You guys are really good!

  • Uber and Lyft is BANNED permanently here in Hungary, thanks to official Taxi companies. They lobbied, they protested by blocking major routes in the capital, they argued in court that Uber is impossible to regulate and does not treat its drivers well, and also that there would be no QC. It went through, and Uber and similar companies cannot operate here. This was all when Uber started, so almost a decade ago.

  • Say atomic instead of nuclear

  • Don't run Java

  • One the one hand u pro unions then u against then u complain about China xd

  • Just blacklist the collectors...

  • U realize that uber is burning money already? It's already basically not really viable so this could've been the death knell, not that I personally care since I don't ever use it~

  • Linus tech tips' employees' union amen!

  • Uh current yeatlr boohoo

  • How did Luke meet ur based mother

  • It's better to be exploited than starve?

  • No buyers remorse after buying 3600 now for 4k gaming ;)

  • Pretty bullshit to be offended by workers trying to unionize. It's not about what you're trying to do or about being a good boss, it's about conflicts of interests. Just like you are free to join an employer's organization without provoking the ire of your employees, an employee should be free to unionize without your scrutiny. As a dane, it's horrifying to hear a boss say he would be "offended" by workers unionizing. In fact, as a good boss who cares about your employees, you should be encouraging it, since you presumably know you take care of the workers.

  • I don't think the pricing is due to yield issues. This node, AMDs experience with it - *very* mature. I think it's more that since it's impossible to meet demand and TSMCs capacity is maxed out - until they can catch up, they either wanna get 5950X level revenue for those 8C dies, or save them for Epyc.

  • I'll bet you that AMD releases Zen4 (Ryzen 6,000) before Intel releases anything new. I bet AMD releases Zen4 before the end of 2021.

  • Steve said that 3200 MHz RAM ran faster than 3600 MHz. hrwiki.info/plane/video/YbekrNeYeGZr2II

  • In california, the ads were flat out fraudulent. So dishonest.

  • I guess they have very limited image of what gaming is. You need loads of usb ports for gaming. Keyboard, mouse, TrackIR, Logitech G25 wheel, CH pro pedals and Honeycomb alpha flight controls for starters. Some games also need a gaming pad or joystick. I often have at least 6 devices connected at once.

  • pretty easy to solve, AMD recommend DDR3600-DDR4000 and then builders will use 3600-4000. ;) just checked g. skill ddr3200 2x8gb and g. skill ddr3600 2x8gb price difference $12 ;)

  • the biggest upgrade imho in the past several years has been m.2. NVME drives.

  • Linus ryzen sex tips

  • Linus talking about employee rights erks me. The reason that proposition was passed is because its a trade off between rights. Sure you can have minimum wage and health care benefits... but that could mean that you have to work during a schedule Uber or Lift chooses, not when you want. Or how about the fact that the could have a policy where you can't work at another company-that's a legitimate thing they could do if you're their employee. Or what if they only choose to schedule for say 20 hours a week because if they work you past a certain point they would have to pay benefits for a full time employee instead of part time one? These are a just a few of the rights that you give up when you become an employee, it's about freedom of the worker, not just employee rights. I know that these things can happen because I've been effected by it when AB5 was created, it made it extremely difficult for me to work. They should've repealed the whole law, not just carve out exemptions for certain industries-they've exempted nearly every large industry but small industries are getting killed. I could continue, but I think you can get the point.

  • I was just watching this, and something that stood out to me specifically was the conversation regarding Prop 22 in California. To me it seems that there are so many people that have opinions about something they do not fully understand. The majority of people who work gig jobs do not work full time. Yes there are people who do work full time. Having said that, The majority of drivers wanted this to pass. If this didn't pass then we wouldn't be able to make our own schedule. We would ONLY be able to work on one specific platform. This also means there would only be a limited amount of people who do get "hired" as employees. I work for both Uber Eats and Door Dash. If it didn't pass, I would have to accept every order. Even if it takes me really far from home. There are certain places, for the most part big cities where there are a lot of opportunities with gig jobs. In Sacramento specifically I make from 18-25$ an hour. I work when I can. I accept order that grant me the most benefit. I do not see how "employees" of Uber or Lyft getting paid above 15$ and hour. The answer to this is simple, do things that particularly benefit you the most. If you complain about not being able to make over minimum wage, then perhaps the infrastructure in your location isn't available. It is out of your control. Do something else, don't ruin it for the majority. I do think it is possible for someone to work 40 hours per week and not be able to afford to pay for health insurance. If you make below a certain amount of money, there are governmental systems that help.

  • Not being an employee is the benefit. Anyone can get the job (no real hiring/interview process), can work any hours you want (consistent or not up to you), less rules, no real "boss", unlimited earning potential, low tax obligation etc. I love being an independent contractor.

  • As a matter of fact she's very fond of cricket

  • That moment when Linus has thiccer beard than Luke XD

  • "I wish we have done this" Yeah linus we all know it WASN'T done